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00:00:25: Let's dive into The Action folks.

00:00:27: it's game time!

00:00:31: Marcus

00:00:33: aka Grated Moments.

00:00:36: It looks better.

00:00:37: No, last week it didn't work out very well but he already had a try to get

00:00:50: you in here for the past week But this

00:00:52: week it worked out.

00:00:55: Alex can not because of good reason people.

00:01:00: His wife has birthday today And definitely has something better to do.

00:01:09: today He also planned an surprise party.

00:01:13: That's why greetings go out to the woman and congratulations.

00:01:19: dear Melly I hope not, you have a nice name.

00:01:22: Alex wrote to me today that he's at the pub.

00:01:24: where else?

00:01:25: He drank half bottle of champagne and is already slightly drunk.

00:01:30: I think it was shopping.

00:01:32: We sent him a photo with a bag from one brand we don't call here.

00:01:37: It's still valid for us but he was busy today anyway.

00:01:40: Yes very good!

00:01:42: But I'm glad that you're there.

00:01:45: Last week it didn't work out because... What was the last week?

00:01:48: Last week, we

00:01:51: had a team meeting.

00:01:53: We are now also a small team with different personalities that do not only advise us here and there but of course support each other as well.

00:02:04: so... We had to postpone it a bit.

00:02:06: But thanks for the invitation, I'm always happy with that.

00:02:09: I find this exciting and I myself am more diligent.

00:02:11: That's why I'm curious about all of these

00:02:15: topics we're talking today.

00:02:16: It is also brought together by one or two.

00:02:18: By the way, very exciting topics as far as i think.

00:02:21: No exactly.

00:02:22: you have already shared some insights over the CardMetanus.

00:02:26: Now it was appropriate Also a wonderful video.

00:02:31: I think we can do that right now in the background on Instagram.

00:02:37: But you have a cinema trailer,

00:02:40: which of course is like all other reels are also cinemas.

00:02:47: Do you take them yourself or let's make

00:02:49: it?

00:02:49: So the recordings were actually made by me yesterday on site and then cut together quickly.

00:02:55: It looks wild, but that's not rocket science now!

00:02:58: That is a thirty-second video.

00:03:00: Also again at this point ... so today we don't have anything to do with podcasts?

00:03:06: I'm just here because of it.

00:03:07: This has nothing to do at all.

00:03:10: But no, we do everything ourselves.

00:03:13: There are a few drone shots that I was afraid of getting caught because the messe is located hundreds meters away from the airport.

00:03:20: but please don't report this video or anything like it.

00:03:27: No!

00:03:29: We're doing all by ourself and you can see what was necessary for us to create more space later on.

00:03:35: But you heard that today half an hour the Düsseldorfer airport has to close a

00:03:40: little bit.

00:03:40: I was yesterday there.

00:03:42: Okay, then maybe someone else will do it.

00:03:44: Exactly, but we'll talk about this in a minute.

00:03:47: We always start with Tachos and all of our topics theme again for you.

00:03:53: It was actually a bit quieter, but there is also time to talk about the one or other topics a little more intensively at this point.

00:04:00: First of all, greetings to everyone who are in chat at the start.

00:04:03: Da Dom Lenche Niko Kekesatz da Gorn Steve Ohrster Socker Zocker Westi Kalex Tzauzi Merlis and on Vox are still two three at the beginning.

00:04:16: Greetings to everybody out.

00:04:17: Nice that you're there on Tuesday evening.

00:04:22: Yes, let's just stay with it.

00:04:23: As you said last week we already wanted to invite Sebi into the hobby talk because Sebi came here very well for us and that is why I will do this

00:04:38: again or again.

00:04:38: No, I think your opinion

00:04:41: is already interesting or in your own opinion.

00:04:43: You also brought two or three topics that are really very exciting and I'm looking forward to them on the chat as well.

00:04:50: Exactly you announced it today!

00:04:51: You're lucky enough got a teaser from Sibi where he was saying that Düsseldorf is growing and now it's official.

00:04:57: It has become the DüsselDorfer Messe.

00:04:59: A few things have already been discussed out there.

00:05:05: What can you tell us?

00:05:05: What can't be said right now?

00:05:09: Yeah, at the end we can now tell

00:05:11: you everything.

00:05:13: I mean there are then also officially in the next few days a couple more news.

00:05:19: but it was important first that people know how things go on and not just last year.

00:05:24: everyone who will be in Mitsubishi Electric Hall this year sees what you have seen in Frankfurt, ultimately just no longer corresponds to the biggest demand and also not how we want to further develop this topic.

00:05:41: And if one looks at what Frankfurt has done with exhibitors and partners as well as booths that are all things which of course are simply not imaginable when it comes time for us now in September .

00:05:52: The plan is actually to go into the Messe Düsseldorf since ... let me lie One and a half years roughly.

00:05:59: I mean, these are all educational topics that you have to look at first.

00:06:05: Then it is of course important for us between Frankfurt and Büsseldorf Of course also having some time.

00:06:14: So we say six months.

00:06:15: in the meantime It's actually a good timeframe for everyone involved because people Of course not every week go on a card show even if there is currently one anywhere in Germany or Europe.

00:06:26: But another topic And yes, it is now fixed.

00:06:31: We are there on nearly thirteen thousand square meters.

00:06:35: That was consciously packed into the real or not in that video anymore because we have a little bit of this biggest best fastest as always topic.

00:06:45: what social media has always played will annoy me so much at the end.

00:06:49: just do and then continue to watch like that.

00:06:51: So you've seen where the journey goes And in the next few days, more information will probably be available for sale over the next two or three weeks.

00:07:01: So that people really have a chance to prepare themselves for this long.

00:07:06: I don't want you to think about it too much.

00:07:09: Before we get to the question, Frankfurt vs Düsseldorf is the Hall of Eight B. who would like me to look at it online.

00:07:18: You can just google it.

00:07:19: It's a little bit bigger than Frankfurt so almost... five thousand square meters again, bigger than the area that we now have in Frankfurt.

00:07:28: Now of course Frankfurt is growing around twice as much, but Düsseldorf lies between them basically and yes there's also a HCC corner.

00:07:37: We've got enough space or I'm just asking here with one eye to recognize.

00:07:41: no But this is exactly the point.

00:07:43: Of course we have different situations for making things happen in DüsselDorf, trying out new things Spannende Sachen auf dem Tisch.

00:07:52: Wir werden auch, weil die Frage kam auch machen wir noch mehr.

00:07:56: was ist noch geplant?

00:07:58: werden definitiv nächstes Jahr auch Mitte des Jahres noch etwas kleineres in Lüsseldorf machen zu einem ganz anderen Thema Was aber auch super spannendes news dazu Aber zum späteren Zeitpunkt Weil das alles noch nicht in trockenen Tüchern ist.

00:08:11: und wer haben wir momentan oder jetzt aktuell auch die Kapazitäten?

00:08:15: uns mit weiteren Ideen Themen Potenzialen wie immer.

00:08:19: and the first move is now the transfer.

00:08:22: Messe-Düsseldorf, great team on site who are really excited.

00:08:26: of course they're also totally hyped because you don't understand this topic at all but were in Cognito as a visitor to Frankfurt so we had that too.

00:08:33: You can't always expect it.

00:08:35: They were really nervous about Sunday and looked at what we do in Frankfurt And just like that We actually set up a partnership.

00:08:43: This is a project for the next few years.

00:08:46: And with this growth, of course it also requires a reasonable planning and I think we have found something very good at home there in Messe Düsseldorf .

00:08:52: You can be curious about that!

00:08:54: As you can see on the pictures, that's something completely different again.

00:09:00: That was

00:09:01: just said as well ... I've never been to Messe-Düsseldorff myself yet.

00:09:05: We were only there when they told us what was next to this football event.

00:09:08: But I think the infrastructure, right?

00:09:12: You said a train stops directly in front of parking spaces without hands.

00:09:15: The roadways actually

00:09:16: go exactly into it.

00:09:17: You get out from the roadway.

00:09:19: It's almost directly next to the Mercospiel Arena where Fortuna Düsseldorf is at home and just drives up the roller coaster and is in the venue.

00:09:27: And we will also be in DüsselDorf in the fair.

00:09:30: that is then designed so that the visitor entrance is disconnected by the exhibitors or partners depending on And there are thousands of parks that are ten meters away from the entrance gate.

00:09:40: So we're now at a level where, I've seen it somewhere on Insta as well The theme park situation and also one more situation will be on another level than what was possible in the Mitsubishi Electric Hall this year.

00:09:55: again the whole thing is a bit different.

00:09:56: We were planning to do so here in front of the hall a own accreditation tent is built around this whole amount of people, also in the form of the demand how we have them to be justified.

00:10:15: We do not have the accreditation counter that people who were there last year know but it's not the optimal solution and so now simply build on the parking lot something where then we will start the accrediting early with a reasonable line lead And even at an entirely different level because they say we want to get rid of the venue reasonably.

00:10:36: It's quite normal to

00:10:37: do that.

00:10:37: This is also a learning from last year, not the amount of people in total but rather the fact that all these people come at once – this was in Frankfurt as well.

00:10:46: so we solved it wonderfully.

00:10:47: We still don't have the infrastructure in Düsseldorf, but we do it so that this year there will be no friction.

00:10:56: It's also extremely important

00:10:58: to me and them too.

00:10:58: He has you as well... That is really crazy!

00:10:59: I'm not saying because today are my co-bloggers But again and again And i think one can't often say how much energy and power You build an extra tent So that the input works better.

00:11:13: All of these things It's not self-evident.

00:11:18: You can already see how professional the whole thing is in between now and then, which is crazy!

00:11:27: That's why I want to thank you again and praise your energy and ideas as well as learnings that you always put into it.

00:11:35: It's also crazy what they're planning next year right?

00:11:38: We just talked about them.

00:11:39: They have announced December of this year, so there will be three months before that.

00:11:45: You already know what you're going to do next December with your Christmas

00:11:51: money, so to speak.

00:11:52: Yes and the dates are really up until twenty-nine.

00:11:55: So at this point we can of course also say that on the website is probably not quite clear yet but we will stay in Frankfurt where we are now and we'll be staying in Lüsseldorf as well till two thousand twenty nine right there always with the potential left or right side to take it.

00:12:07: But the location remains the same And thus the team for place too in detail, to optimize certain things.

00:12:19: So I just don't know if you can imagine that it is... You still know about yourself when once a show was done at the venue and then you go there twice, of course let your learnings flow into it, knows how the processes are, knows exactly what the team works on site.

00:12:34: but we have now changed four times over three years Plus neue location plus neue Stadt plus.

00:12:39: unser Ziel ist natürlich auch irgendwann mal anzukommen.

00:12:42: Wir waren aber von Anfang an realistisch und haben ganz klar gesagt, wir gehen jetzt nicht mit der Brechstange dran sondern wir wachsen so wie es am Ende des Tages den Markt hergibt.

00:12:50: So wenn man sich den Markt anschaut und die gucken wir uns ja gleich noch auf ein paar Themen auch an dann spiegelt das hier auch wieder und deswegen können wir diese Schritte halt auch ruhig gewissens machen weil wir am ende aber auch in Taschenrechner umgehen können.

00:13:03: Das ist einfach so.

00:13:04: das Ding.

00:13:06: Kickersat also writes planning and steady improvements.

00:13:09: CardMetness is the benchmark there, I can only write it down.

00:13:13: Kiersche writes that they think it's good for them to record the theme Parkplatz once again.

00:13:21: Thank you very much for the information.

00:13:24: as said two weeks ago I thought it would be worth looking into

00:13:28: the shop.

00:13:28: of course we are already at Hallenplan.

00:13:29: It will not look like a set up in Frankfurt because this has simply been proven.

00:13:33: We are not quite sure yet if we will give the blocks a recommendation.

00:13:41: Which form of collector should be secured in which block?

00:13:44: But we still see that it seems to people, even though they always scream and say split it up please.

00:13:51: Pokemon and sport!

00:13:54: We don't want to tear the community apart but we still give them an recommendation.

00:14:04: It doesn´t matter anyway.

00:14:06: Yeah, yeah.

00:14:06: And this, these themes that we recommend in the blocks whether

00:14:11: they are tcg or sport.

00:14:12: That came from many corners but it's still not a shop because people have to give up what I collect and of course we match them.

00:14:34: if there is one i collect tcgs or i collect pokemon from me and sit at the sports block then i ask myself ok where do you want us?

00:14:50: Well those are such topics.

00:14:52: small things get out yet no one with.

00:14:55: But we ask ourselves exactly these questions and think, does that make sense?

00:14:59: Do you just do it free for all?

00:15:02: because if one or the other table owner sees what is also okay when he sees something different.

00:15:12: We actually want this flow of... Of course there's a table where there are Pokemon cards next to a sports table but don't really want to travel apart from each other as well since in the end I take myself as an example.

00:15:24: Of course, in the sport area now i have one or two pokemon cards.

00:15:27: The mix

00:15:30: makes it.

00:15:30: so we actually see

00:15:31: that too right?

00:15:32: We always try to go into feedback because if then we implement the feedback and we realize okay you can save us Then let's

00:15:40: just do this Exactly!

00:15:41: And I've got him on the table Can still walk past the tables when he doesn't care about me.

00:15:46: So time is enough.

00:15:48: I think it's also a bit of this FOMO effect, that people are afraid to be on the other corner.

00:15:52: Maybe there will still be a new documentary which you might not have seen and maybe what is exactly where i am looking for right now.

00:16:00: That's another topic, then.

00:16:01: Then no

00:16:03: idea... It can be anything.

00:16:05: Alex just wrote that I would like to sit next to Marcos and you could also sit on me instead of Alex.

00:16:10: Kirsch, it might be possible for a table until now in the same day as last time when we had to book the table tomorrow morning after selling out ten minutes later?

00:16:19: The promo effect from this sense is that

00:16:25: one doesn't get a table so quickly.

00:16:27: It was a huge discussion online, where people said they couldn't get a table.

00:16:31: We knew at the time that there were two hundred and forty private collectors' tables in Schmalev.

00:16:40: That's what we're going to do now.

00:16:43: You can see it on Düsseldorf as well.

00:16:45: The tickets for DüsselDorf will be available before this year's date.

00:16:49: So there is no longer this discussion in the future, because we now also have planning safety.

00:16:56: Sometimes locations change or table plan changes are short-lived that it's always not so easy.

00:17:03: but then things will go differently in the near future.

00:17:05: Very good!

00:17:05: We're looking forward to it.

00:17:07: As I said, this is also a good time.

00:17:10: Maybe one or the other has more than one or two euros in December at least if something falls off Christmas gifts for the card show.

00:17:20: So that's why it's always nice to have a good period of time.

00:17:23: In general, I think pre-wedding times are

00:17:29: usually good.

00:17:29: It seems there will be companies who pay Christmas money like these.

00:17:35: So that's how everyone is happy.

00:17:36: The collector has money to buy and the shop earns money, so it's a save that turns around.

00:17:40: And if you touch each other in such months That was always our favorite date Because we were also in December for the first year at Castello And this was world class.

00:17:52: We wanted back there as well In the Mitsubishi Electric Hall.

00:17:56: There are no dates in December.

00:17:56: Eine

00:17:59: Frage noch von Sausie sind Frankfurt Tische mittlerweile alle ausverkauft ist?

00:18:04: die Wartesammletisch

00:18:05: waren immer innerhalb von Vier und zwanzig bis achten vierzehn Stunden weg.

00:18:08: Also auch die, die wir nachgeschoben haben bewusst noch eine ganze rutsche gewerbliche tische Die verfügbar sind.

00:18:16: ich glaube das sind müsste mich jetzt erschlagen der andi weiß es sich weiss nicht Lass es hundertfünfzig sein aus dem Bauchhaus aber mit einem Jahr vorlauf wissen wird dass die auf weggehen weil wir auch jeden tag Anfragen zu gewerbtlichen Flächen bekommen.

00:18:28: That's why it is so deliberately designed, especially the dealers at a later point of time.

00:18:35: If they can't look in the future for example now because nobody from us knows that there are still those who have the opportunity to check in later on.

00:18:42: It's also good like this!

00:18:43: It annoys ourselves when people go on our website and see okay no table.

00:18:49: Now you've got at least the possibility if you somehow act responsibly out of the back again to attack something ... That's at least what we hear, that for Frankfurt next year all private collectors are satisfied.

00:19:02: We're talking in Frankfurt now over a thousand eight hundred fifty tables or something like this

00:19:11: is just

00:19:11: enough.

00:19:12: first of all I think you don't even know where they come from in the same size.

00:19:17: You have to deal with it later.

00:19:19: This was already an

00:19:21: issue but yes Crazy.

00:19:24: Thank you very much, Sebi.

00:19:25: Once again for some information.

00:19:27: if you want to start something else of course I would love it.

00:19:30: otherwise we look forward to the information that will still come or other events where You have already mentioned there is a little more so It's not going to be boring.

00:19:41: thank you very, very much then once again.

00:19:44: But you always

00:19:46: had to stay on the topic.

00:19:48: yes also when The opening of the Venetix store in Munich, if I remember correctly.

00:19:56: That was a short time ago when you were here at our podcast and then you said that on the weekend I went to Munich and I'm there.

00:20:01: Since then we haven't talked about it either.

00:20:04: so maybe only from first hand.

00:20:06: your impression again of this store in München?

00:20:09: How did it go?

00:20:10: or how do you like the store?

00:20:11: I'm

00:20:11: not allowed to spoil, because of course i know how it is going on there.

00:20:14: Because he's actually just a pop-up store.

00:20:16: but that's what I've already said too much about him.

00:20:19: The rest can think for themselves... No!

00:20:21: Of course the store is cool and in the middle of town relatively central.

00:20:25: It was well done with two floors plus another small event area.

00:20:30: I believe today was the Loda.

00:20:33: Or yesterday or something?

00:20:35: So of course

00:20:36: they also want to play the theme FC Bayern Munich, which makes sense.

00:20:42: There are still other things planned The store has.

00:20:46: for those who are near or want to take a look at everything on product so every top product that is currently available you can see there in vitrin stand.

00:20:55: the prices vary naturally depending on the market situation.

00:20:59: as if it had an expectation that somehow no idea tops Postmake, NBA box or whatever the retail price in regal is.

00:21:10: Please don't go there with this expectation.

00:21:12: They fit the prices of course to the respective waves which are also quite clear.

00:21:19: What I discussed a bit before that Erschrecking fand und amustig so an diesen an diesem heib der des watch oder mal bicky ure auch denken.

00:21:30: es gab natürlich eine schlange vor dem store.

00:21:32: werden die möglich zwei stunden eher drin zu sein und auch einzukaufen was echt cool war.

00:21:37: das ist ein tobs dann quasi so für uns mit uns umgesetzt.

00:21:42: es war echt cool.

00:21:43: aber draußen ging es leider natürlich nur um value.

00:21:47: stock x read also the secondary market und koa.

00:21:51: so alle leute die da in der schlange standen würde ich jetzt nicht unterschreiben dass sie da waren weil sie hobby fanatica sind sondern eher weil sie auf der welle mitsurfen.

00:22:03: das ist natürlich was.

00:22:04: das muss man ein bisschen im auger behalten.

00:22:05: There can't be anything against it, but I'm just not a fan of that.

00:22:08: But the people are obviously not stupid and see what's going on there too.

00:22:14: And therefore is naturally nice to have those guys who didn't know how many hours waited for them then couldn't go in to flip around thirty seconds later the box for double price somewhere.

00:22:25: That wasn't possible at the time.

00:22:27: Of course, Tegel Stutt did

00:22:28: this as well because they weren't able

00:22:30: to buy online prices in shops cheaper than you could.

00:22:36: That's why I always had a couple of ideas from different shops last month.

00:22:41: It might be something else, but what do you mean?

00:22:43: that you buy such a box and remove the foil?

00:22:46: That you don't have the opportunity to sell it at an original price again.

00:22:53: There were already some ideas with me and maybe there are still more ideas...

00:23:00: What I've seen, the store in Paris is still open.

00:23:03: It came today or yesterday?

00:23:04: I don't know at all.

00:23:05: but there's another one coming up too and yeah it's good that they're playing with content.

00:23:11: so now trading night theme, signing sessions... But of course this topic also lives on about it as well.

00:23:15: And you can also say that Munich will not necessarily only be a pop-up anymore but then it'll become the

00:23:22: future Exactly!

00:23:23: I think they did do that officially And then next to it, or Alex already teased me last week.

00:23:31: It's already at the start is... No, Alexa wasn't there but Alex was.

00:23:39: Exactly!

00:23:40: I just did my job.

00:23:41: for those who don´t see it.

00:23:42: The sixth is where I take a trade night in the pop-up store.

00:23:46: That means now on weekends?

00:23:47: No not weekends until tomorrow.

00:23:49: It isn´t weekend yet.

00:23:49: It won´t be a holiday either right?

00:23:51: Is that under the weekend and a tradenight at Donnerstag?

00:23:54: Donnerstag münchen weiß man die da sind immer noch mal ein zwei feiertage mehr.

00:23:57: deswegen fremst grad überlegt aber nicht.

00:24:00: ich glaube es keine abes am donnerstag jetzt übermorgen in München.

00:24:02: wer dann der ecke ist schaut doch mal davor bei da geht's.

00:24:06: auf jeden fall gibt es eine trade night was auch nicht mehr so weit weg ist startet.

00:24:10: ja jetzt wir sind in der wm-woche.

00:24:12: bist du im hype sebi?

00:24:14: absolut nicht.

00:24:15: No, it's not a secret that I'm not in the football world.

00:24:19: I like to watch national games and I also like talking about Germany even though I don't have the right to do so.

00:24:27: Nevertheless of course I am looking forward for this event as such And especially here – and now we're coming up with our next topic – you've got a point of view which is strategically very useful.

00:24:40: Yes exactly.

00:24:40: We'll get back to the WM.

00:24:42: There's one or two more topics coming up, but I wanted to find the transition to the Phenetics Fest in New York City because it takes place around July and July of this month.

00:24:55: The website already looks pretty cool so we gave a little bit of gas at that point as well.

00:24:58: And gradually guests have been visited again and again.

00:25:01: Of course they're very excited about this event with Trump.

00:25:08: Which is new to come, I think they announced

00:25:10: today.

00:25:10: That's why the players

00:25:12: are also there as well.

00:25:13: They have a product without an entertainer and no one knows how much it costs.

00:25:15: but if you look at the guest list You need to calculate together No idea who likes it and what the gages will be like.

00:25:27: But that of course is the world elite sport.

00:25:30: It's

00:25:31: crazy entertainment not only sports.

00:25:33: So really from

00:25:36: all sports, big sports.

00:25:39: What's missing a little bit logically of course is good.

00:25:44: we have Roberto Carlos

00:25:47: here.

00:25:48: I don't know if it's already like the spoiler so i've heard about an english superstar who should appear there and not sure

00:26:00: whether that's confirmed or whether this

00:26:04: is public?

00:26:05: Yes, that

00:26:06: would not be so far away now.

00:26:08: Who are you?

00:26:09: But yes, football basketball as you already said JC WBE.

00:26:17: So really everything has its rank and name.

00:26:20: then it is possible to buy different tickets there to take pictures.

00:26:23: You're not here or was I think already once last year or before this one?

00:26:29: At the

00:26:30: very first Fanatics Festival i was there just to get a feeling what they do.

00:26:34: The name of the festival is already on your mind.

00:26:39: It's more like a festival than having expectations that it would be a Kachou Festival.

00:26:43: Every American brand or sports market in the world has its own stand.

00:26:52: That's all awesome.

00:26:57: If you have the opportunity, definitely take a look at it.

00:27:09: But I don't think we need to go.

00:27:14: every year We fly like many of us here to Chicago.

00:27:18: We thought about whether or not we combine that and then make

00:27:30: some cool time somewhere in between.

00:27:32: Also not

00:27:32: wrong but that is already... For NetEx Fest who is stressed after a card show.

00:27:37: Yeah, that's it.

00:27:38: And Mike Rubin has also played the subject of network in sports.

00:27:47: These are all bodies from him that you can see on the list and this is just That's crazy, so because you cannot pay for these guys.

00:27:56: So here our FIFA president will be part-of-the deal In five years.

00:28:01: he'll look over there.

00:28:03: I've heard they have their own stage of the FIFA.

00:28:05: Crazy but it's cool.

00:28:09: So strong, definitely.

00:28:11: I can tell you that if he goes there or someone knows him, of course we will be interested in how it was then and the people are invited here exclusively to report something about this.

00:28:27: But yes, Chokovic is also

00:28:29: involved now.

00:28:30: In fact, there's a hundred meters air line from the Java Center, there is a hotel by Cristiano Ronaldo.

00:28:35: What just happened?

00:28:35: Okay.

00:28:39: Yeah, I said he's the cat that also has to run a

00:28:42: guy like this and there is some CR seven with him name on it And all of these things are filled up in his footbells and trickles and so forth.

00:28:48: He's been invested but doesn't have anything to do with Ronaldo or something else.

00:28:53: I actually slept there myself.

00:28:55: It was no luxury hotel.

00:28:56: before we came up with strange ideas again.

00:28:58: That's standard.

00:28:59: So it's good standard But absolutely affordable as well.

00:29:02: Therefore i know because We checked in there and didn´t even knew what was going on Then asked us why they're here Very good.

00:29:08: Very exciting!

00:29:10: So as I said, if you ever go there, feel free to tell me about it.

00:29:14: For Markus comes a posh-spy and writes Kirsch.

00:29:16: Last time when i was a little teenager i wrote various fan letters on poshspys.

00:29:21: If they would have come then of course we would have thought maybe flying into the sky.

00:29:29: Exactly!

00:29:29: The first thing is about the shows Straight Nights the world, we come into a bit of an issue.

00:29:36: As I said, WM still follows us a little.

00:29:39: but what is also very relevant right now before the WM starts at nine o'clock in the evening on Thursday night are the NBA Finals.

00:29:47: you already follow that a bit more intensively.

00:29:49: as far as i know i am actually

00:29:51: one or two after waking up last night.

00:29:55: Of course not because everything was clear to me because So everyone who saw the first two games knew that they would then go into the Madison Square Garden.

00:30:06: I personally didn't expect all of them, and it was really close in the end but i did not expect to get only one foot on the ground at the square garden.

00:30:16: It's so crazy!

00:30:16: And tomorrow morning again I got so annoyed because I was so stupid about Instagram even though I actually wanted a review.

00:30:22: The first story was the theme and I had a bad mood again.

00:30:27: But in the morning or at night, it's fine to watch because then you're aware of that.

00:30:32: Then I'm curious if they'll get this episode twice as well but it's just Animatrix is writing right now.

00:30:38: That's how I imagine finals.

00:30:41: Both games were really bad for me since I'm already familiar with Wemby fans... That was really low-low.

00:30:50: Also the second game in San Antonio, it was a lot of trash.

00:30:54: I think if the team is very young they are still so creative and also an awesome group that can do this already.

00:31:06: but unfortunately there's always a lot going on with the Galeons figure together And when Wemby isn't on point then the result doesn´t fit as well And that happens in many top teams.

00:31:19: If the best player doesn't perform, he won't be able to do it as a whole team.

00:31:24: That's actually a phenomenon and I'm curious how this will go on.

00:31:27: It's quite good

00:31:28: for New York, of course there are some players who have a bit of an advantage but I don't think they're just hanging around here.

00:31:36: say I'm exclusively on one person.

00:31:39: Of course, as a big New York fan, Team New York.

00:31:42: I was very happy to have seen it yesterday or only saw the summary.

00:31:45: It will definitely be very exciting

00:31:50: now that you've read and also seen what actually happened in New York last night?

00:31:55: Yes

00:31:56: yes!

00:31:57: So Alcatraz Vibes did this thing.

00:32:03: And now to be politically engaged, but of course because their top was also a guest there.

00:32:11: But nevertheless it's crazy.

00:32:15: what is going on in the city?

00:32:16: I think if you win nothing...I

00:32:20: don't know what happened in town.

00:32:21: That's crazy!

00:32:21: I was once or twice at the garden and not naturally into the final.

00:32:27: There were already exciting games that went around for some time too because it's been a long time, that some New Yorker team really wins something.

00:32:39: At football anyway not at all.

00:32:41: but nothing is different and of course there are many traditions which also play with them And they're already very fanatic.

00:32:47: While Hobby Tüte just writes after the excursion in New York, his voice has shifted.

00:32:51: I didn't get so much from excursions to be honest.

00:32:56: Maybe you can write down what you think The fans are crazy fanatic, even in the garden.

00:33:03: I would like to be there and experience it with them.

00:33:06: I think that's something I can animate as a player or an opponent but also a little bit of insight depending on what you do.

00:33:15: I saw King Of Cards.

00:33:17: He sat second

00:33:18: row?

00:33:18: Oh

00:33:20: really?!

00:33:20: Yeah, he also told a story about an Avembi card and would have been invited because it was part of some trade that he made with the Avembicard.

00:33:29: And the guy said to whom we traded.

00:33:33: when the Spurs come into the Finals against the Nyx then let's go for the game.

00:33:37: So cool story!

00:33:38: I saw that Spike Lee is probably the biggest Nyx fan on this planet with a trick there

00:33:52: which was signed

00:33:54: by Papst.

00:33:54: Yeah, that's right.

00:33:55: There were a few people who

00:33:58: noticed the attack on the Spurs bus and the fans.

00:34:01: So as I said... I can imagine it was very wild already!

00:34:08: I saw one of them through the city with the Spurstrick.

00:34:11: He had so much fun now.

00:34:13: Yes, it's definitely very

00:34:15: exciting and we have in our eyes.

00:34:19: to get the transition a little bit.

00:34:23: We actually already reported last week about the records and I just wanted to show you again in the graphic, where are big Wemby fans?

00:34:32: And do you know that?

00:34:34: Hopefully!

00:34:35: You probably also have one or two other Wembie cards at your home and maybe you're looking forward to it a little over there.

00:34:53: .

00:34:53: The Cardleadr

00:34:56: Index if we take a look at each other for three months now or especially once every two weeks can be seen.

00:35:05: he is very rising especially

00:35:07: after May the thirtieth.

00:35:08: so since Good over a It was okay, everything was at index seven hundred and then it went fast on May the twelfth.

00:35:18: On a thousand two hundred now again stinging to one thousand three hundred and there I keep that whole thing very stable.

00:35:26: also volume is of course more times less but we had peaks too have reported how much after some game against.

00:35:35: Ok, see where the six thousand transactions were only on eBay in one day.

00:35:38: So that's already crazy.

00:35:40: what is going on right now?

00:35:43: definitely with the mb cards The black one-on-one.

00:35:47: we talked about it.

00:35:51: That may be for the final.

00:35:51: I just had something else to show you because Also very exciting because we had the stars to compare and then Collector of X made a nice comparison number of cards sold in the last thirty days.

00:36:04: Wembaan Yama, thirty-three thousand six hundred.

00:36:07: Jalen Brunson one thousand eight hundred.

00:36:10: at that time they had the next lead from one point zero in the series.

00:36:14: so you can already see where.

00:36:17: Would the love card love also have to be like that?

00:36:20: Or I mean, there are of course two completely different personalities with a complete differentiated standing in not only in the collection business but also in sports.

00:36:31: So personally for me, Angelin Brunson is not at all sympathetic so it always plays along when I invest my money into something no matter if now to pull something out or because I think the guy is just awesome, it's easier with Wemby than with Jail and Runs but that's my opinion.

00:36:48: Yes,

00:36:48: I'm sure he's playing with that.

00:36:51: Yesterday there was an episode where Wemby just checked the Brunson one and tore it up.

00:36:57: It looks like you pressed a button

00:36:59: on your head!

00:36:59: Of

00:37:01: course this also plays part in... If we look at the story of Brunston from Mavericks without falling too deep into NBA talk but actually seen as talent when he won a title for New York, now is already... Very, very cool.

00:37:16: That's what CeBee says, performance is one thing but the story about the

00:37:23: player is just as important.

00:37:24: It's also like you when you say New York is your squad.

00:37:27: I didn't follow a single game from them because i simply don't feel that team.

00:37:32: So...I like these young teams where ... I mean it may be a bit professionally related to me over the last years.

00:37:40: This team forms and grows together.

00:37:42: They have fun Together they are emotional Together they can get used to each other.

00:37:46: All of this belongs there And that's why the spares are so fresh together and also from average age, I don't know.

00:37:54: We have to see for next week if you get the average age of teams somewhere.

00:37:59: I think the spores definitely one with the lowest average

00:38:05: age in the

00:38:06: NBA.

00:38:07: That makes it super fun to watch how they fire at each other.

00:38:15: It is just crazy!

00:38:18: This is this senior team.

00:38:20: And for me it's the next senior team, a leading team.

00:38:23: That would probably

00:38:24: be good too I think.

00:38:25: until now we've been in the city always in love with each other.

00:38:30: that's why we were there at some point.

00:38:32: The Nix.

00:38:33: We also have the Nix which they have in average age.

00:38:37: Yes yes,

00:38:38: these old ones, definitely

00:38:39: The old one.

00:38:42: Markus has always slept in a Nix bedwash like that, namely Not so

00:38:46: much.

00:38:46: But of

00:38:48: course

00:38:49: the bank is also justified, I don't know a bank player who has no plan at

00:38:55: all.

00:38:55: Let's see how it goes on and there will definitely be an exciting round.

00:39:00: with the two of them.

00:39:02: And NHL, by the way I don't want to mention it, gets much too little, but also here at us.

00:39:06: logically, but Lacu Caraccia has written from.

00:39:09: there are finals as well that is tonight if someone looks into this because I think Carolina is in it But i do not know exactly against which one, honestly, but it's just a bit too short for you, but maybe you can write it down, Lacu Carraccia We have a game in Germany on December, right?

00:39:29: Yes, I think so.

00:39:33: We also talked about a solution from the last time.

00:39:43: Alex was very interested and we had... from the Mickey Mantle Redemption, which was mentioned in the package.

00:39:53: The chance was at one to forty million packs that you could pull these redemptions off of Mickey Mantles.

00:39:59: They were then pulled and landed directly on Golden.

00:40:04: But we knew until the time when it wasn't on the Redemption card what grade the card had.

00:40:11: now is officially a PSA five which is put into the packs by Redemption.

00:40:21: That means Tops bought this card and packed it in the Serious One, as I said before... ...and the one who was allowed to join the Redemption must be happy now!

00:40:35: I think that's still going on.

00:40:36: At the moment it was about a dollar seventy-thousand dollars, something like that around the turn.

00:40:41: We'll definitely keep them

00:40:42: where they go next time.

00:40:43: There will probably be some more, right?

00:40:44: Yes there will certainly be.

00:40:46: But yes, you wanted to reach out because last week we didn't know that yet.

00:40:49: Last sale sold in the year two thousand and twenty-one of five point five was one hundred sixty-two thousand.

00:41:02: Yes I think so too.

00:41:03: then also very cool platform.

00:41:05: people have a look at how it is established and namely GTCR is called all this Global Trading Card Registry.

00:41:16: And they have called a page in their life where you can report stolen cards, that means there is one when you buy and get offers to search for your card then you can enter the cert number, of course only at graded cards if it's included here should be.

00:41:40: You can find out which one.

00:41:43: There are now only thirty reports in there, the page is very fresh called into life and there are now thirty in it that have been reported to me.

00:41:51: And with this goal you should be able to place stolen cards over there and by good luck.

00:41:59: someone who says I'm getting a card now offered not looking for a card go first on the side look i am unsure if they may be as stolen reported and could these cards Checking state and field of course with the care and use this platform.

00:42:14: Do you see your chance?

00:42:16: So I think my idea is basically good,

00:42:19: but I have just a bit of FBI vibes, which is actually pretty cool.

00:42:24: I asked myself for the first time and I didn't know it by heart because I think that's great in itself.

00:42:29: Of course you always live from the input of users on platforms like this but are they completely free?

00:42:35: So can i go there now to say okay what has been stolen forever?

00:42:38: They want to do that

00:42:40: extra.

00:42:43: GTSCR is free and open for everyone, no account required to search when you put something in the back.

00:42:48: You just have to make an account but it's also for free.

00:42:50: That could

00:42:52: be, so if I go like this now... So that's missing a hobby?

00:42:55: Of course i need to establish that because of course it's exciting to watch where the journey goes there which might be a topic that is quickly snatched from one big person.

00:43:07: Because of course it's missing, right?

00:43:09: Yes!

00:43:11: So we see each other again and again in Instagram stories or somewhere where someone has something out there... And then naturally it gets divided as best as possible.

00:43:20: but after twenty-four hours the idea, like I said makes sense.

00:43:27: The question how to do this is our contribution today to say you can use it But of course it's up and running with the use.

00:43:37: But like you said, she really has FBI vibes.

00:43:40: She is a little bit FBI-like on her

00:43:42: side?

00:43:42: I'm a little scared but at the end of the day there are things that happen to each other as well.

00:43:51: And then someone thought what else we don't have yet.

00:43:54: So he did something about it.

00:43:57: He just lives his

00:43:58: life to put things around.

00:44:00: Yes, the next section is just missing to give this FBI Vibe a little bit more.

00:44:07: who has stolen the card so to speak.

00:44:09: So then we will load up

00:44:11: the face of it.

00:44:11: It would be exciting even if I'm there now and don't know from any stolen card that you can claim or report them somewhere .

00:44:18: Then of course you have a two point zero reach right?

00:44:21: That might be something for the future.

00:44:22: but yes

00:44:23: , maybe still comes with good ideas.

00:44:26: anyway Let's get back to basketball.

00:44:30: I just forgot because they are already outside, but there was at least one summer that we're going out again and I think it will be sold once or twice later.

00:44:39: But this is the first million for Shea, Gillis, Alexander who wanted to sell them, namely the twenty-sixth and twentieth top scrims.

00:44:49: Logoman, Autographed Relics one of one.

00:44:51: He was now sold with Bayers premium for a million for one point zero six-one million.

00:44:59: Is this also the club that sells millions?

00:45:02: The good SGA to the right, dear Alex.

00:45:05: Sebi I'm not as deep in basketball like you think it is but...

00:45:09: Yes so i..i..i find Shea already cool!

00:45:12: So from my point of view, the trigger hanging here is more fun than just taking Wemby.

00:45:15: That's the fun fact about it.

00:45:20: At the end of this day, I think he has a phase on social media where people like to jump into my opponent and make fun of me for producing vibes.

00:45:29: This is exactly what I perceive right now.

00:45:35: when you look at the stats between him and Wemby in the last five or six weeks especially as back-to-back MVP It's crazy that Wemby is interested in all of them.

00:45:46: Let me show you blocks, because it isn't rocket science now... ...that Wembie is better there but he also has better stats than SGA.

00:45:54: But the card is one of the best cards I know from Tops at the moment even out of the set which is just wonderful!

00:46:04: I would have paid a Mio if he didn't, because Shae is just a bit of a chess player.

00:46:12: Even though it's an awesome game, but he also plays

00:46:15: chess.

00:46:17: My personal opinion.

00:46:18: It's not that nice either, to be honest But there are plenty of them I think but it is also not mine too.

00:46:24: You have to say this is the redemption card, right?

00:46:26: So it is clear which cards you get.

00:46:28: The million has now been offered on the Redemption card for the first

00:46:34: time.

00:46:34: No, they didn't

00:46:35: even solve it at all.

00:46:37: They actually solved the redemption card.

00:46:40: Also, you don't have the card in your hand yet.

00:46:43: But I think it's not going to be that long until they come back.

00:46:46: They won´t get along like

00:46:47: we do every six months.

00:46:49: Exactly!

00:46:49: After all this

00:46:50: on the topic of basketball.

00:46:59: Then guys... We are coming a little bit into the WM mood.

00:47:05: So tomorrow morning at nine o´clock Mexico against South Africa starts.

00:47:09: It's not the highlight game for the opening,

00:47:13: but tomorrow

00:47:14: is Sunday.

00:47:16: And Sunday plays Germany around seven or nine.

00:47:19: I think it was the first game exactly.

00:47:21: That's what we're going to do now and the Sports Collector's Daily page has some Spannende Berichte momentan, die haben einmal fangen sie jetzt gerade so an zeige ich euch gleich auch noch mal so eine Serie zu starten jedes Team und deren Karten Highlights so ein bisschen oder Spieler Karten highlights vorzustellen.

00:47:41: Hier haben Sie eine Gesamtübersicht veröffentlicht wo sie so ein Bisschen Die vierzehn wichtigsten Athleten zum angucken die man auf der Watchlist haben sollte.

00:47:50: für Trading cards sind jetzt auch Spieler dabei ehrlicherweise die nicht so geheimnis sind.

00:47:55: hier wird als erstes Harry Kane for England.

00:48:01: Mbappé is now also not so secret-favorite in Germany, logically Erling Haaland is part of it as well.

00:48:09: D'Ambilée... What

00:48:10: are his first VMRs?

00:48:11: Haaland yes right?

00:48:12: I actually think

00:48:15: he's a first VM, honestly!

00:48:17: where.

00:48:17: I've already looked at it today.

00:48:19: I thought they weren't included in Norway, that they flew out but in this case somehow managed to do so.

00:48:27: Muziala from Germany is called here.

00:48:30: Vitidnia is also often called Portugal as a favorite of some... So what has its own reason?

00:48:40: But for me personally, it's not the top favorite.

00:48:43: Then Pedri will be known as Players to Watch Olysee, the player from Bayern Munich in France.

00:48:52: He was also a really good form for Bayern and he is such an actor who doesn't look so cheap when looking at his card technique.

00:49:03: but of course with very very good WM again Something is getting more and more.

00:49:08: The so-called Tunisian will be called Jude Bellingham for England.

00:49:15: Sucker is also included here, called Rotri & Mo Salah for Egypt.

00:49:22: It's still with us at the start.

00:49:23: I think everyone who has been testing this game... I have to go out now because of that.

00:49:28: I even watched the game against Germany in the USA or Chicago?

00:49:34: Yes, of course you can see that they screwed up the ritual of the hymn.

00:49:40: That now somehow the players are included and not everyone else in a row anymore but somehow it sounds like an American vibe.

00:49:50: I don't know if i think is good or bad.

00:49:52: what she actually found much more wild was built behind a gate on bifes.

00:49:57: I thought

00:49:59: it was too old, Falter.

00:50:00: Now football seems to be the best way in America if you look at the chicken nuggets and the chicken wings behind the goal.

00:50:09: And then people get crazy about that because they've never seen it before.

00:50:13: All You Can Eat Before Behind The Goal actually saw me.

00:50:16: It's very wild!

00:50:17: But have you ever watched a game like this?

00:50:19: I found the image quality quite remarkable.

00:50:21: I just wanted to say that you always hear

00:50:23: the children scream out of their neighbor's box.

00:50:26: I thought it was crazy, but somehow I made up my mind.

00:50:30: And so...I don't know how they thought about this in the future because I think the

00:50:39: games vary a lot on

00:50:39: the shows when I have the right idea.

00:50:40: But if there is one who has the last transfer, then I won't need him at all!

00:50:48: Because whoever saw what he did can't stop them.

00:50:50: So also The co-commentator, who is not the first time in his life to be a live co commentator can't listen to

00:51:00: you.

00:51:00: I think at the beginning

00:51:01: it didn't fit the sound yet and then actually my very first iPhone headset with cable was better.

00:51:15: So it's been a bit on and build so I had to speak with you.

00:51:19: I'm really curious how this is

00:51:21: going to be just like the idea that was always so yeah,

00:51:26: also an image striker for the america american vibe super which are these days at the beginning where they the spiele einzeln vorgestellt werden.

00:51:36: It was really strange.

00:51:37: I think it's good that all players are on the spot when they're national hymns, because otherwise you only see those who are now the first eleven.

00:51:43: But to be able to put together all the players for a national hymn is pretty cool in my opinion.

00:51:49: but every single player again with names, at least some of them were a bit strange and very long as well since then... His culture, his rituals tries to do something.

00:52:04: I can remember South Africa always had these bubo-selas in the background.

00:52:08: You heard them as tinnitus.

00:52:12: Politically it

00:52:12: has to be for new cultures or other trees and America is the topic of sport And right now I'm calling the intro a different one.

00:52:21: We'll get back

00:52:23: to that later, because you asked a very interesting question.

00:52:26: We'd like to discuss it with all of you again in the future.

00:52:30: As I said before, sportscollectors daily.com are coming up now and then.

00:52:34: They're called Collector's Guide.

00:52:36: Now they start with group A where really every team has their top fourteen overalls.

00:52:43: There wasn't much surprise there but let them go into the individual groups – Mexico… South Korea, Czechia and South Africa.

00:52:51: This is the first group now.

00:52:53: There are a few interesting players there that you could have in your eyes... A kind of scout list for collectibles or more.

00:53:04: You can take a look at it if you

00:53:12: want to.

00:53:12: It's very exciting how I think about this.

00:53:14: Yes, I think it's

00:53:19: very cool.

00:53:19: Then when he was still playing football, Topps announced from the Champions League final where Paris Saint-Germain won this thing that the game ball goes out of the final in a collector card, top snout card by Usman de Belé who also shot a goal there .

00:53:40: Very cool!

00:53:41: So i always find him very cool something different like Tricos and ... What is this?

00:53:45: I'm wearing, but it's always game balls.

00:53:47: And then also from the finale where you're a little bit of that

00:53:52: too.

00:53:53: Is there

00:53:56: something on top or is there something printed on it?

00:53:58: Or what does that mean?

00:53:58: It says something about it already!

00:54:01: But no one can recognize

00:54:01: which one stands up for them either.

00:54:03: There will definitely be more later in the story.

00:54:05: Topps

00:54:05: has played through with such card marketing as well so probably some things are still

00:54:10: coming.

00:54:10: I found it very cool in the game.

00:54:11: To be honest, when

00:54:12: talking about Bella, I read that if you catch a ball with football why can't i keep it?

00:54:23: When you mean football as a fan...

00:54:27: Baseball is easy to keep but not with football.

00:54:32: Because of sales or something like this?

00:54:33: No because there's a chip in the ball which records

00:54:39: all

00:54:40: things.

00:54:41: I was like, oh yeah, it makes sense.

00:54:43: But I just didn't know the day.

00:54:45: Okay, that's what I

00:54:47: don't even know.

00:54:47: By the way, Lukaku Gracias is solved by the way.

00:54:50: there is Budapest twenty-six where the final word of course makes sense today.

00:54:55: very

00:54:55: good very well Let's get to Panini.

00:54:57: The story was very

00:54:58: funny, Athletic told us about it and that must have been the case.

00:55:07: There are cards from the Signature Series set which is a relatively new one.

00:55:17: I think we've already talked about this in our Panini Signature series.

00:55:21: And on top of those cards you can see the back pages... By the way we'll be able to discuss them later as well because they used to look much nicer than today.

00:55:32: or there were texts on the player and for example, a sentence from VJ Edgekomp was used as an example.

00:55:41: For instance, he plays like a thunder storm on Roller Skates with one or two collectors.

00:55:48: Is that someone who really wrote it down?

00:55:55: Or is this

00:55:56: K.I.?

00:55:57: Formuliert gewesen, da gab's jetzt ein Bericht wie gesagt auf Athletic.

00:56:01: Die wurden damit irgendwie konfrontiert mit von jemandem und die sagen nein wir nutzen keine KI um den Text draufzuschreiben.

00:56:12: You can't tell me to put one on and take it out of your fingers.

00:56:18: Never in my life, my opinion!

00:56:19: It's really wild... I'll read it in English for a moment.

00:56:25: So that sounds very... I mean you can't prove this

00:56:32: but what else do they have to say?

00:56:33: Of course we did with KI But the story was funny.

00:56:37: So you have to think about how many people should sit there and in what spiritual state they

00:56:54: are, that such a text from the Hüftelayers.

00:57:02: You already drank one or another champagne?

00:57:05: I

00:57:05: mean texts cool but also because so far no idea.

00:57:09: if i had hundred cards in my hand to take an award maybe i read through it on one of them.

00:57:14: yes

00:57:15: for me

00:57:15: this is not emotional value.

00:57:18: was it different with old cards?

00:57:19: did you look at your statistics before?

00:57:22: This is something

00:57:23: different, but I think when we made the map for Mario Götze in Frankfurt.

00:57:31: there was no AI and thought about what we could write on it.

00:57:36: And then wrote a short story to him that wasn't emotional or anything like this anymore.

00:57:42: But i had another idea.

00:57:44: That's exactly how you have to know your players.

00:57:47: How high are their chances of knowing them without googling?

00:57:54: And then out of the facts and his attributes or what ever, or his epic moments a text never builds in life.

00:58:04: Yes

00:58:04: that's definitely true.

00:58:06: I thought it was very funny but the discussion also has someone here of reddit aufgemacht.

00:58:13: Man geht jetzt zu einer Baseball-Karte, aber ich wollte trotzdem die Diskussion mal hier mit dir oder mit euch mitnehmen.

00:58:18: Mit der Headline They Don't Make Cards Like This Anymore.

00:58:22: was sie dort gemacht haben ist eine Baseballkarte, die nennt sich Powerful Moments.

00:58:25: Sieht aus wie so ne abgeschnittene CD quasi also.

00:58:28: man sieht quasi die Oberkante und Unterkante einer CD-ROM für die Leute, die es noch nie gesehen haben, eine CD das nach Schallplatten sozusagen.

00:58:37: It can happen.

00:58:42: That's how old we are already.

00:58:48: As I said, the headline is Don't Make Cards Like This Anymore.

00:58:50: How do you use it?

00:58:53: We talked a bit about the back pages and here in general... ...you're more a fan of the old designs than the new

00:59:04: ones.

00:59:04: Well, I think there was that as an NBA card.

00:59:07: I've never been a team baseball player and always have been in the NBA.

00:59:09: There's even a Jordan card from it but i'm not sure about this one

00:59:11: either.

00:59:12: What I've always celebrated

00:59:13: is the SPX thingies with these very sharp corners like holos on top of them.

00:59:23: both gold sets are actually here in Binder because they simply don't have any huge value now.

00:59:31: So that was it.

00:59:32: I think everyone who opened the APA deck and had an SPX card in there with holo and these round and pointed edges, that's awesome!

00:59:43: The CD thing doesn't feel like a hundred percent now but Annimatrix is writing about it right away.

00:59:48: There were some cool inserts included And of course this topic is up to... I guess that Topsia again with what do they call them?

00:59:58: Something with rocks.

00:59:59: I don't know the name of it on Instagram right now, so there used to be this in the nineties these cards with those mountains.

01:00:07: So these Rocks.

01:00:08: basically they have a new layout.

01:00:10: That's still a bit like a die-cut but really playing does not matter at all anymore.

01:00:15: There were some really crazy things somehow also which ones you have to upload with USB that are really crazy stuff would actually fire up.

01:00:24: But of course, costs are also an ability to not only pack one thing but also produce.

01:00:29: And I think when Topsma looks at the end of the month and thinks OK, cool!

01:00:33: Of course we have two license rights, but we actually print paper and put it in a photo and send them through the world is now no longer the worst business model?

01:00:41: Then you have to ask

01:00:44: yourself does that even need anything?

01:00:48: Yes yes so i'm not really a fan either ,but i find this creativity.

01:00:54: My first NBA card was a Michael Jordan card.

01:01:00: I don't know the name of the card, but it had a rubber surface from the Spaulding ball.

01:01:10: That's so

01:01:11: awesome!

01:01:12: But

01:01:12: that's missing...

01:01:15: But Kukka Ratcha writes that it's also an upper deck card.

01:01:17: I think even if you see icehook cards like this, there are a few more special inserts already.

01:01:22: So I'll give the right one to Kukker Ratsche.

01:01:23: Upper Deck always has pretty cool insert things out of it.

01:01:28: That's true!

01:01:28: The upper deck is.

01:01:29: the design team somehow still feels old school and creative on the way.

01:01:37: At least i definitely like how it looks.

01:01:42: More?

01:01:42: Exactly.

01:01:42: Then we come to a short update on the GameStop.

01:01:52: We already talked about it, GameStop has just been paused with the gradings but they have announced that after the GameStop in recent weeks and months, PSA cards were also accepted there for sending.

01:02:05: So the business model has obviously also changed.

01:02:09: collectibles.

01:02:11: Is it now visible in numbers?

01:02:13: Namely, they announced Q one's results from two thousand six and twenty-six years ago And there was the first time Collectables Hardware and accessories have been removed.

01:02:24: so as you know it actually GameStop hardware accessories.

01:02:28: You go there like the name already says games.

01:02:30: Did your Playstation games or whatever were sold or bought?

01:02:35: In between removed from collectibles with three hundred and forty million.

01:02:39: now the number one increased or there was a return actually from q four.

01:02:45: so it went down to the numbers certainly also the reasons for PSA but of two hundred eleven million last year in Q One on three hundred forty-eight now in Q. One twenty six thousand is very exciting.

01:03:00: that this has to say.

01:03:04: As we were at the Topps Conference in Phoenix, of course there was a lot of shops that could only have an overview.

01:03:14: Of course it was also available in GameStop and they had something to do with it.

01:03:22: but I don't think you should go into them now.

01:03:27: I would like to visit them every week.

01:03:30: so there is a big sporting goods store which has more!

01:03:32: It was a small shop somewhere in the middle of Phoenix, but it's not as if they had everything on the product that you can imagine.

01:03:39: They weren't really core sports-heavy either and also had a lot of magic.

01:03:45: Some of them were only Disney-like, so wild combination actually at the store.

01:03:52: But it is crazy ... well this was just an individual case.

01:03:54: I don´t know how all other things look like ,but still shows us that the core business shifts a little bit with those.

01:04:02: It's exciting to see how it will go in the future.

01:04:05: I mean, you might want to figure out what happens when they turn right into that direction or maybe even think about other topics like how we can push this forward and then it gets exciting to watch where the journey is going?

01:04:17: Yes!

01:04:17: That's probably

01:04:18: also a question of whether GameStop may not be called GameStop anymore at some point.

01:04:21: Of course you could still play in the farthest sense if we now have Pokémon here

01:04:26: etc.,

01:04:27: but there.

01:04:28: Then the focus is not on games anymore, right?

01:04:30: That's just

01:04:30: a question of whether the Ami GameStop as ... I'll say that sees where it was originally founded or if you see something else in the future.

01:04:40: And this will be decisive for the development of the company.

01:04:44: because when you look at the numbers would also think about how much my money will earn in the near future If I press the button theoretically so that the hair can really print out with the regional range which we have.

01:04:57: So

01:04:57: yes ebay didn't

01:05:00: buy it at first.

01:05:00: i think you were even in there where we talked about the topic that they bought ebay.

01:05:06: but yes, let's continue with us of

01:05:07: course.

01:05:08: then I wanted to share again who is currently looking for employees because last week there was a few infos.

01:05:17: cgc is now international but i took this into account consciously since you can also do advertising for new employees.

01:05:25: cgC has.

01:05:25: It's actually on the US side, because they're looking for it there.

01:05:29: But a cool real intellect is that you search card verification specialists.

01:05:35: What makes this so special?

01:05:38: They also wrote in The first one who sees the submission The first to go against fakes And the first part about getting a grader There.

01:05:50: they made quite a cool video.

01:05:51: I think CGC the part.

01:05:57: so if there is someone interested, but as I said first of all in USA.

01:06:00: now nothing special on the münchner market and for also bockhardt we are also looking for sports card.

01:06:08: investor looks a vice president at bayername last week.

01:06:10: he communicated that they too with an investor expand greatly to the US market.

01:06:15: accordingly they look very much like presidents for purchase.

01:06:18: director breaking.

01:06:20: So you have various management positions.

01:06:24: the tort hinterlegt sind PSA such description,

01:06:27: das gibt uns muss ich ja schon schmunzeln also director

01:06:30: of breaking.

01:06:34: hat was auf

01:06:34: jeden Fall.

01:06:35: Hat hier auch jemand den Kommentar geschrieben?

01:06:37: Director of Breaking explained that on your resume.

01:06:42: Alex schreibt schon seine Bewerbung gerade.

01:06:47: PSA is always looking for it.

01:06:50: You can see it on LinkedIn, but not in other canyons.

01:06:53: If you search outside Grading in the meantime, there will be a lot of different places.

01:07:05: Arena Club vs ZeBee.

01:07:07: Do you know what you have already used or is that absolutely?

01:07:11: I don't use it.

01:07:13: We looked at the National last year, they had a stand there and this was really well done.

01:07:21: simple but good.

01:07:23: so i already know why things are going on.

01:07:27: But that's not my favorite thing about the business idea.

01:07:31: It's of course a cool idea no question.

01:07:33: In short, digital packs for rippin', which are also real there.

01:07:37: They can be sent to you as well but it's more or less a mystery pack online.

01:07:42: You don't know what is inside But checklists are relatively transparent So far better than many that exist out there.

01:07:51: Why would we take this with us?

01:07:52: Not just to introduce ourselves, because after the Spurs Arena Club has made really offensive TV advertising And now they do the next partnership in baseball with Texas Rangers.

01:08:04: There is a partnership.

01:08:05: why that's so exciting, because then of course Arena Club gradually brings the hobby closer to the stadium visit.

01:08:13: So as I said, you already had various in-game activities at the start live events and so on and immediately bring it also into Baseball.

01:08:24: The hobby and also includes various in-game events at the stadium, etc.

01:08:34: Arena Club definitely gives marketing techniques a lot of gas which is like I said once marketing advertising.

01:08:41: but now these partnerships with clubs directly.

01:08:45: Do you know what's going on there?

01:08:48: I have

01:08:49: to open a few digital packs, so that it works at the

01:08:52: end.

01:08:53: Not bad!

01:08:54: This is the co-founder?

01:08:56: The co-founder

01:08:57: ArenaClub, Brian Lee, is the cone founder... I don't know if there are other investors involved in this as well, without being able to say

01:09:07: for sure what they're talking about right now.

01:09:08: Of course you don't just have to do that digitally but also physically.

01:09:11: That's real work, isn't

01:09:12: it?!

01:09:12: So of course you can automate things a lot even though everyone always says they wouldn´t be doing anything like that.

01:09:18: But that doesn't work differently.

01:09:21: That's crazy.

01:09:21: Exciting

01:09:23: to see what Arena Club is doing right now.

01:09:27: Excited too, maybe not so... Breaking news, I'd say.

01:09:34: But the next exclusive signing from Tops has now been secured.

01:09:39: after FIFA was probably a bit of max breaking news there is now an exclusive long-term trading card sticker and so on.

01:09:48: deal with Saudi Arabian football association.

01:09:52: why can that be exciting?

01:09:53: because in two thousand thirty four is the WM in Saudi Arabia with what this brings for football in Saudi Arabia.

01:10:05: Here it is now explicitly about the national team of women, youth and so on.

01:10:10: and immediately they said we are doing exclusively here with the Saudi Arabian association to know that there will be the next WM or the next one in eight years.

01:10:22: It's

01:10:22: a crazy market as well.

01:10:24: Two or three weeks of discussions about this topic from different perspectives, it became clear that the subject of sport or a sports collection culture doesn't actually take place there.

01:10:40: So if you go to some shows and collect events then you have up to ninety percent pokemon people who are athletes in football but not in their regional clubs.

01:10:53: they're fans of Barcelona Real Madrid Whatever, so that will be exciting to watch because the market over there is basically exciting to observe.

01:11:02: Because they stand even if you can't always look at it from a scientific point of view.

01:11:07: but when one takes on the content glasses then actually have them up until tcg not doing anything together in sports at all.

01:11:17: So you wouldn´t believe it, but it really is.

01:11:21: Yes crazy But yes good start.

01:11:24: And

01:11:25: right now, we've been looking for the current Cristiano Ronaldo card.

01:11:30: Please don't ask me where he is playing.

01:11:32: It's also a Panini product.

01:11:34: Funny way

01:11:35: Oh what?

01:11:36: Okay

01:11:37: In his current jersey it's a Paniniproduct.

01:11:40: He plays at... I

01:11:42: don´t play at Nasa or anywhere.

01:11:44: The name

01:11:45: doesn´t know

01:11:46: exactly but that is definitely a Paninniproduction.

01:11:50: But

01:11:51: they collect cars Lambo, Spokane and so on.

01:11:53: But

01:11:54: the connecting culture there is definitely far behind ours.

01:12:00: I can say that

01:12:01: Yes but through potential.

01:12:03: That's why i can absolutely understand it from a business point of view.

01:12:06: And yes as I said also the world championship will bring something with me.

01:12:11: That's still too info for you.

01:12:14: I'm just looking a little bit at the time and look what we have here on topics, one topic.

01:12:20: Let's do such good story.

01:12:21: No, let's start with the question that you asked me because they were already exciting or it fits right now to the subject of WM.

01:12:28: What impact?

01:12:29: And you can also chat about this in some way.

01:12:31: We had once or twice with different themes inside.

01:12:34: but basically which impact has the WM in USA football.

01:12:42: And you have a thesis that would like to be released?

01:12:44: I thought

01:12:47: about it the last few days, made from different reasons and asked me questions.

01:12:51: Okay America is the country of collecting cards because they are far away in Europe or other countries on this world but not in soccer.

01:13:02: So the Amis don't collect any soccer.

01:13:04: and now the question arises what happens through the WM?

01:13:08: also adapt from their own culture directly into sports, in the sense of national anthem ideas.

01:13:18: But my thesis comes after that.

01:13:21: I'm curious to see what does it do?

01:13:23: with the whole market, what the topic of football is about and also the impact in collecting what football is.

01:13:31: And my call is actually that football will be at least on a level from all over the next three to five years which would of course be something like this for everyone who is into marketing data that I can buy certain sports in other countries where maybe the kind of sport is not so popular, cheaper.

01:13:54: So for example, let's say Formula One in China doesn't need to be bought because it costs too much.

01:13:58: Exactly what my perception was actually with football in the USA as well , since it isn't the core sports market at all .

01:14:05: But i think this will shift completely within three or five years.

01:14:10: That's

01:14:11: my call!

01:14:11: Does it fit as a report from Sunmit?

01:14:14: Because collecting the topic and that was also an entry

01:14:19: point for many of us.

01:14:20: You can already see there, I think the content is summarized briefly because Alain Panini says that sales in comparison to this year's year are only two-and-a-half to three times more than their stupid sticker.

01:14:35: Only for bad stickers or we have roughly a feeling about what will come next.

01:14:41: Yes,

01:14:43: I'm definitely talking about it.

01:14:45: Nevertheless the thesis was put in with help from a little bit of AI and asked what supports this thesis?

01:14:52: And what do you mean by that?

01:14:53: I only read the headlines.

01:14:56: What does the thesis support?

01:14:57: Logically speaking, the WM is now on its own market which means the perfect football moment.

01:15:02: The MLS is currently delivering real TV signals.

01:15:07: so not just potential but also there is more and more growth.

01:15:11: Exciting, I found this point, soccer grows exactly in the age group that carries modern cards means between eighteen and thirty-four years.

01:15:20: there's a study which says they are very Soccer watcher, so they look at a lot of football.

01:15:30: What else was there in the other group?

01:15:32: Twelve percent are already twenty-three percent.

01:15:35: that means also the young group comes to a little bit after which has a higher interest for football besides the other sports data.

01:15:42: The infrastructure in USA logically supports this with collectibles.

01:15:48: Fanatics and Tops will professionalize soccer in the USA Aggressive.

01:15:53: We have brought various examples here too And what speaks against it are topics like the USA is a growth market, but not a football core market.

01:16:02: The WM hype isn't an automatically sustainable map demand.

01:16:08: The most important, that's an interesting point – the most important players don't play in the US.

01:16:11: Although there will be more and more exchanges you have to say about this.

01:16:16: To be honest, it sounds like a lot of your career, but that can also shift.

01:16:22: License fragmentation is still a problem where up to thirty-one FIFAs should be done and the USA could rather drive demand as global prices stabilize.

01:16:35: That means more US buyers mean more liquidity, more attention, more capital.

01:16:41: But if too many products come on the market, the whole thing neutralizes itself.

01:16:46: I am also more supportive of the thesis, even if there are a few contrasts.

01:16:55: We can look at that with help from the WM.

01:16:57: I think it would be interesting to see where they come from and how you find something like this in the month.

01:17:04: what is going on, because individual players look at it.

01:17:09: I mean that the implementations of the players who deliver there go up.

01:17:19: It's always like this in the end of the day but it would be exciting to know

01:17:34: if football moves further in America or not and how the impact will be at the end?

01:17:43: The

01:17:45: clip where you are writing is still interesting.

01:17:50: so many Americans can't judge the quality played by the World Cup footballers.

01:17:57: Yeah.

01:17:58: Exactly.

01:17:59: Exciting question, but of course in the blink of an eye.

01:18:03: I also brought

01:18:07: with me a exciting partnership.

01:18:09: I read it too and disappeared from my mind that Hannover is starting a very exciting partnership now not with the rena club But with another provider.

01:18:23: I don't know how to pronounce her.

01:18:26: Proch probably?

01:18:27: No i didn't know them yet.

01:18:28: I just

01:18:28: researched is a Japanese company with a seat in Germany

01:18:32: for quite some time.

01:18:32: They already have their seats here, but of course they bring Japanese baseball and Japanese football.

01:18:50: Baseball is very exciting right there!

01:18:54: And I just looked at them and showed it to you again from OTANI.

01:18:58: A card brought out by Epoch.

01:19:01: in the year It will be offered for a thousand and seventy-nine dollars.

01:19:04: I don't know if it's not sold now, but just an offer.

01:19:07: I have no idea what else is going on here.

01:19:08: But here pop ten out of sixteen total PSA population at forty two.

01:19:12: Maybe through maybe a exciting card in the early OTANI time?

01:19:18: So there are already longer ones that are on the market, but actually in Japan And because of a trip from ANOVA.

01:19:26: you should read this out You had these partnerships.

01:19:31: Yes, it's exciting to see for the Hannover TV.

01:19:33: The question is why

01:19:34: do you then look for Hannover?

01:19:37: But I think that this is also a license issue and in the article there are other topics hanging on top of each other now not only about cards but Parovit

01:19:49: as well.

01:19:50: At the end everything is always important what happens.

01:19:54: so if things may look like this again down below It isn't wrong That in the end is a fan of the club.

01:20:02: If it's exclusive cards, no matter what brand there are.

01:20:06: I mean we see that also with Ultimate Drops.

01:20:08: people tear their hands off regardless which club they're from because then you have something to really keep in your hand and transport some history and emotions.

01:20:17: And this is at the

01:20:19: end Yes yes definitely.

01:20:21: I think for the fans It's really valuable.

01:20:23: These are stickers, collecting cards that should come out next season.

01:20:28: very

01:20:29: exciting.

01:20:29: We had a talk with our regular ice hockey club here and they also told us that, last year we did a sticker album with Panini.

01:20:38: I think it was in the United States for about ninety years or so?

01:20:43: I don't know exactly anymore but this has been torn out of hand because people have something to touch on, have something together and many clubs sometimes even smaller clubs do not understand how you actually The story of the club and relics or memorabilia, whatever.

01:21:02: How you actually play it And how to make that accessible for fans To keep them on the emotional level.

01:21:09: That was basically the basic thing.

01:21:12: But the topic works with every

01:21:17: club.

01:21:17: when I'm playing

01:21:18: right

01:21:19: With everyone I always say at Eintracht, if you collect cards there.

01:21:22: So they had some mini-cards.

01:21:23: They weren't really optimal.

01:21:26: So it wasn't the best set, but I think especially in such a passionate sport that works.

01:21:33: Did you drop anything?

01:21:34: Or did there never be something else?

01:21:35: Panini actually

01:21:36: dropped some things at that time and then there was a Frankfurt Set.

01:21:41: But this had great potential.

01:21:43: There weren´t any memorabilia and the letters were also not so optimal.

01:21:49: The set had potential.

01:21:54: If you want to have

01:21:57: hobby love in a small product, then it is really a company-related product.

01:22:03: Then there has to be someone who is able to do that as well.

01:22:08: Whether it's artworks, signings or whatever.

01:22:13: I know the story of Ultimate Drops and Fatouna Düsseldorf because that was a bit involved in the game.

01:22:20: And why did things become on-card at the end?

01:22:23: Because someone made the club strong for this.

01:22:26: You can only do so when you have short ways to go.

01:22:30: If Panini has one then there are no short paths which is why such things just lose.

01:22:37: That's why I think that the club doesn't like to do it.

01:22:40: Since you're in FC Bayern Munich, we've all seen what comes out of this.

01:22:43: Of course again on another level but if i'm a Bundesliga fan or a good second Bundesliga club then somehow I have to find someone who does and plays with me.

01:22:52: If not for collecting objects?

01:22:55: If I just want to play outside is an other topic But when doing something cool will be a small round.

01:23:01: Yes

01:23:02: finish by yourself.

01:23:04: Animatrix.

01:23:04: Schreptor even has a card from the era.

01:23:07: The quality is very, very good for Animatrix to know and Legendary Ruby... Alex was just on

01:23:13: e-mail!

01:23:13: Yes, he already

01:23:15: knew Othani in Warnkorb but he already knows him by now.

01:23:21: Hannover also had two Japanese cards so they definitely had Japan activities where I really have to say that the quality of Upper Deck left me a little.

01:23:32: Ah, from Ultimate Drops.

01:23:33: The Schalkekarten waren gut angeknabbert!

01:23:37: Nach den Terminen heute Markus da werden Dinger eingekauft.

01:23:39: Okay... Very good!

01:23:42: Ach so meinst du okay?

01:23:43: Ihr hatten heut ein spannender Termin.

01:23:44: tatsächlich ja Alex und ich mehr dazu hoffentlich zeitnah.

01:23:48: We are already very far over time, we still have the good story.

01:23:57: A nice story that is always trying to get in at the end of it.

01:24:00: and indeed we took one with us here And he had a collector after twenty-five years Sein set vollgemacht, das hat nämlich auf X der gute Collective Guru gepostet.

01:24:12: Firmundzwanzig jahre später das Set ist endlich komplett!

01:24:16: Es geht um ein Set.

01:24:17: Zwei tausend Eins Don Ross Classics Significant Signatures also alles On-Card unterschrieben.

01:24:25: Fünfundzwanzzig Jahre später Also fünfund zwanzig Jahre später hat er Gute Zookeeper Game Plane dann dieses Set.

01:24:34: But it's also a hundred, so far over

01:24:39: one hundred and sixty,

01:24:43: one hundred seventy every year.

01:24:48: So four is not bad at all.

01:24:53: but when I see that he has collected for significantly less than twenty years , of course there are

01:24:59: great cards no question.

01:25:00: Yeah, that's a nice thing.

01:25:00: In the twenty-five years I think of this feeling when you have found your last

01:25:04: card.

01:25:05: If it suddenly pops up on eBay or wherever... You just feel it.

01:25:08: That's true!

01:25:09: But sometimes

01:25:12: there is

01:25:13: such one card which i searched for three years and it didn't come out once.

01:25:18: And now they are two times and it's on twenty five twice on ebay.

01:25:24: Suddenly at the same day on both sides.

01:25:27: Sometimes it goes fast must have been there for twenty-five

01:25:31: years.

01:25:31: How long did it take you to be here?

01:25:32: Three and a half, that's not so long yet... But at the

01:25:35: beginning I gave it a lot of gas.

01:25:36: There was also such small group Of four people who actually only collected this set And then they had eight eyes instead of two Every day all through Forsten.

01:25:53: That is what i do until today In the hope that one day The thing will be complete And then I'll

01:26:01: make a cry for it.

01:26:03: Very good!

01:26:04: Well, dear Sebi, thank you very much again for your time and insight.

01:26:10: It's been a lot of fun with you as well.

01:26:13: I'm

01:26:14: hyped when Alex doesn't have any more time next

01:26:19: year.

01:26:19: Thank you so much to all of you who were almost forty years old at the start.

01:26:24: Many thanks if you liked that.

01:26:25: You know how we can support each other.

01:26:27: on Spotify will definitely help us a lot.

01:26:32: On Thursday, Alex is not there today but I think we'll continue with the card shop.

01:26:41: Have you

01:26:42: downloaded the game in the meantime?

01:26:44: Sibi or do you still press it before that?

01:26:46: I'm a little scared to invest my freedom next somewhere else.

01:26:48: Alex has already sent me a few times and can still push myself forward!

01:26:52: But i think this is cool because i am addicted for something

01:26:57: like that too.

01:26:58: Very good.

01:26:59: Exactly, on Thursday Alex Bestedix will continue to work again at the Hamptons Card Lab and then Alex's channel as always Tuesday here.

01:27:10: Ebi, thank you very much!

01:27:11: Do you want anything else?

01:27:12: Then it is now your chance.

01:27:15: Oh,

01:27:16: that sounds like the same

01:27:17: question all the time... Yeah,

01:27:19: I know.

01:27:19: As if you didn't know anything about it!

01:27:21: But no... I already said thank you very much and we always have a lot of fun doing that when I can be part of the conversation with other topics.

01:27:32: And this doesn't just happen even for Andy or me.

01:27:36: It's not why we're here but because we are Parovitz.

01:27:39: I like to be there and also like to have a discussion.

01:27:42: And that's what it is about, which makes us extremely happy.

01:27:46: That's why I'm always happy with this kind of stuff.

01:27:49: I find it just awesome!

01:27:50: It has got to be something like that at the end of the day... I've already said once before how you do things in your own way or in the direction where they develop and co-create.

01:27:58: It's simply great because quality, high-quality contributions are good content beforehand.

01:28:03: What we're doing now?

01:28:04: Everything is neutral so everything must go as planned for today.

01:28:10: Thank

01:28:10: you very much for your words, Sebi.

01:28:12: And yes guys!

01:28:13: Then the eyes open and two weeks will probably be sold out next year at Christmas and otherwise follow me on Kartenmetz on Instagram.

01:28:24: I'm also looking forward to seeing you again when you're back, dear Sebi!

01:28:29: Until then people stay healthy.

01:28:32: we'll see each other all the time.

01:28:33: Ciao together.